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Friday, 22 May 2020

Mick Dillingham Interviews - Salim Nourallah (Part 2)




Mick brings Salim's career up to date with this new interview that covers the last decade.


As a producer yourself, who would you say are the producers from the past that you are in awe of? 

"Well, The Godfather of producers is George Martin. I think he set the bar for production, but in some ways what he did always felt somewhat unattainable. He did have The Beatles after all. Who gets to work with a band as mega-talented as them? Nick Lowe was another big influence for me. I loved the way his records sounded, especially the drums.

There was a no-nonsense quality to all of his productions that appealed to me even before I understood the recording techniques. I also appreciated that he was a songwriter who was navigating a career as a musician alongside his production job. I remember being 18 and saying, "I want to be like that and do both!"


If you could be the engineer to any producer, who would it be?

"I've never really regarded myself as a "real" engineer. I don't have the technical skills that pure engineers have. I learned to record out of necessity so that I could continue to document my own music. I feel like production is really what I excel in over engineering. So over the past few years, I've phased out the engineering side of what I do. So, all that being said, I don't think I'd wanted to be the engineer to any producer. I'd rather be the producer! Ethan Johns can engineer for me any time he'd like though."


If you could go back in time and be the fly on the wall for the recording of any record, what sessions would you go for?

"Without a second’s hesitation, The Beatles’ White Album. I would’ve loved to analyse the recording techniques. What microphones did they used on certain instruments? How did they got all those great guitar sounds (especially the fuzz guitar tones). I think it still stands as my pick for the coolest sounding recording of all-time. There's so many variations in the song approaches, but they all hang together cohesively due to the production and recording technique. It's remarkable. In one way or another I've ultimately been chasing this aesthetic for my entire career as a musician."


If you are unleashed in the studio, given carte blanche, what type of production would you gravitate towards? 

"I tend to always go for what I consider to be a classic or timeless sound. Beatles production is timeless and classic, because they used great condenser microphones and lots of tubes. I think there are certain things that can date recordings and I'm interested in trying to avoid that at all costs. So even when I'm given "carte blanche" I think honouring the song is the most important thing. I don't generally go for piling layers upon layers and making something that sounds "fake." "








The Disappearing Act (with Bob Blumenfeld)


"Bob Blumenfeld has been a friend of mine since we attended second grade together at Western Hills elementary in El Paso. Sometime around 2008 he contacted me about recording some of his guitar instrumentals. He's always dabbled in these strange tunings, so everything he plays sounds exotic and mysterious to me. He came in the studio years ago to put some of these guitar pieces down and I started hearing vocal melodies. They were so evocative. Without telling him I plugged a microphone in to the control room console and started mumble-singing these ideas I was hearing.

He was in the tracking room so he had no idea that I was doing that. It was the beginning of a very unique songwriting partnership. Later I developed an interesting way of working on the songs. I'd cut Bob's guitar tracks to a drum loop which would put the song on a tempo grid. As I developed the vocal melody and words I'd chop up, extend or move around chunks of the song to accommodate the vocal arrangement. For me it was a totally unorthodox way of working, but it yielded some very interesting results.

The first Disappearing Act CD was released in 2010 and we miraculously managed a follow up that came out in 2015. That's called Born to Say Goodbye. That record was mainly written in 2013, while my marriage was falling apart. I never put any of the lyrics to paper like I always do. I would sit at the recording console and just sing whatever I was feeling. The words would develop in a stream of conscious sort of way, then I would circle back to revise them. My revisions were always with the microphone in hand, never a pen. I think it ended up giving the record a very interesting feel.

"Invisible" is probably the rawest, saddest thing that's ever come out of me. "Peace By The Sea" was another that was written in a particularly distraught state of mind. I just wandered out to the studio one night while the kids were sleeping and sung it in a daze. I found it easier to get these ultra-exposed feelings out under The Disappearing Act moniker because I knew the record would be flying under the radar, so to speak.

Believe it or not, I didn't feel comfortable airing these kind of feelings yet on a solo record. I felt like so many people in the Dallas arts community knew my ex, Jayme, and I. It just didn't feel right to air hurt feelings on a solo album until I'd let some time pass." 


Rhett Miller

"Rhett has been a big part of my life ever since we toured his Instigator record in 2002. I played bass in his backing band and we became close friends. Our sons were just about the same age and we'd both gotten married around the same time. There were a lot of things that we had in common including difficult relationships with our father's. I ended up producing his self-titled solo record in 2009 and I also produced a few Old 97 records - Blame it on Gravity, Grand Theatre 1 & 2 and Most Messed Up.

"Most Messed Up fittingly happened at a time when both our lives were sort of falling apart. I ended up divorced and ready to tour in the gaps of not seeing my kids. We'd do these 3 or 4 date mini-runs. It worked perfectly for my single-dad schedule, because I could fly out to wherever Rhett was, do a couple of shows, then scoot back to Texas in time for the Wednesday afternoon carpool pick-up.

We also started writing songs together around this time. We ended up writing three songs that appeared on their Graveyard Whistling album: "Jesus Loves You," "I Don't Wanna Die In This Town" and "She Hates Everybody." He also contributed lyrical assistance to The Travoltas'  "Work of Art".

I did a run of dates with the Old 97's to support the release of my Skeleton Closet album in the Fall of 2015. That was kind of crazy, because I was doing a one man show with a 1979 Panasonic boombox. After that we drifted out of touch a bit, but earlier this year we did some East Coast dates, wrote some more songs together and had plans to go on another Southern run in April. The coronavirus shut us down though."


Alex Dezen

Alex has been another close friend of mine since I met him on tour with Rhett in 2002. His band, The Damnwells, were opening a bunch of dates and we hit it off instantly. He's one of the funniest, brightest people I've ever known. In 2014 I ended up producing the last Damnwells record.

Later that year, on one of the Rhett Miller runs, I ended up meeting Sarah Henry. She was working with a great recording studio in Nashville called "Welcome To 1979". We became music nerd friends and formed a record label together in 2016. Sarah dubbed it Palo Santo Records. After The Damnwells broke up, Alex started a duo project with his girlfriend, Amber Bollinger, called Broken Baby.

When he sent Sarah and I some of their recordings in 2017, we were completely blown away and signed them to our label. It's quite different than The Damnwells, but still has Alex's penchant for great melodies and words. At the beginning of 2018, Palo Santo enlisted Alex to be our label manager. After he came on board he ratcheted the whole thing up to a much higher level."









Billy Harvey and NHD

 "My friend, Bob Schneider, first told me about how great Billy was around 2003. He gave me a CD of songs that he was working on for his 2nd solo album, Pie. I thought his songs were awesome, clever and melodic and I became a fan. In 2008, I asked him if he'd produce what would end up being my 4th solo album, "Constellation". I loved working with Billy on that record, it was probably the best recording experience I'd had to date.

It was a massive relief to have someone else that I respected help make production decisions. I'd been on my own in that department for my first three records and was feeling worn out. Billy is also one of my favourite guitar players, so in 2009 I asked him if he'd play on this Rhett Miller solo album that I was producing. He did some pretty mind-blowing stuff on that record.

At the beginning of 2014, my personal life was sort of in shambles, due to a divorce. I decided I wanted to start getting out and playing more. I'd always been active playing in the Dallas Metroplex area, but only occasionally toured since the birth of my two kids, Gavin and Miette. I thought it would be cool to put together a Texas tour with a couple of friends.

The first two that came to mind were Alex Dezen and Billy Harvey. They didn't actually know each other yet and I remember them both being slightly suspicious of the other. I strung together eight dates in May and by the end of our run, Alex and Billy were fast friends. We'd basically started NHD, Nourallah Harvey Dezen. We did two more similar Texas tours in March and December of 2015, then decided to finally make a record together.

Our friend, Martie Maguire from the Dixie Chicks, graciously let us record in her wonderful home studio. We had Jim Vollentine engineer. He'd masterfully recorded the Old 97's Grand Theatre, Most Messed Up, as well as my Hit Parade and Skeleton Closet records.

We tracked the entire "And the Devil Went Up To Portland" record in just seven days at Martie's place. We even wrote three songs from scratch - "Hello, From An Emergency Room In Hollywood", "Somebody Loves Me" and "Ballad Of A Patient Man." That record eventually came out in 2017 after we took it back to Pleasantry Lane and mixed it.

Bob Schneider completed the circle by doing the fantastic album art. He'd also done The Nourallah Brothers and Skeleton Closet designs. NHD did another short Texas tour in October of 2017, this time with John Dufilho and Richard Martin giving us a full band situation. The last thing we did together were three dates with Rhett Miller in Colorado.

That was November of 2017. We haven't done anything else as NHD since, but we've been talking about doing another record together. That probably won't happen until next year - 2021. Palo Santo also put out Billy's classic album, Pie, on vinyl for the first time last year."   


The Travoltas (2012 and 2017)

"The Travoltas were born out of my friendship with Paul Slavens. He's a keyboard virtuoso and radio personality here in the Dallas/Denton area. He's been in bands for many years. "Ten Hands" being his most well-known. When my 2nd album, Beautiful Noise, came out, he had me do a track by track segment for our public radio station, KERA. I really enjoyed our visit and we did it again with a couple of my records that followed.

After I came up to Denton to do a track by track segment for Hit Parade, Paul and I had an impromptu performance where he reinterpreted some of my songs. It was so much fun to hear him stand songs like "1978" on their heads. The Travoltas would later turn it into a reggae groove! So that was when the seeds were sewn to start The Travoltas.

I poached some insanely talented musicians that had recently come through the doors of my studio - Nick Earl, Mike Hodges and Emsy Robinson. Then I found some matching polyester suits on Ebay for only $25 a pop. In September of 2011, we played our first show at Sons of Hermann Hall. 2012 was our biggest year though. We played a ton of dates with the Old 97s in the Midwest and East Coast. We quickly recorded a few songs at Pleasantry Lane, so we'd have a CD for new fans to take home. It was never intended to be our first album, it was just a limited edition tour momento.

In April of 2014, the band spent just six days recording at the Treefort in Austin with Jim Vollentine engineering. We tracked something like fifteen songs that wouldn't be released until December 2017 as our "proper" debut because the band lost its motor when drummer, Mike Hodges, moved to New York city in early '14.

Jason Garner, who is a phenomenal drummer, stepped in as a replacement, but his busy touring schedule with Polyphonic Spree and the Old 97's really slowed us down. I finally decided to officially call it a day last year. We had only played one show since 2016, so it felt like, for all intents and purposes, the band needed to be officially put to rest." 


Hit Parade (2012)

"In August of 2010, I ended up taking a band down to Austin and recording in the same studio that we’d done the Old 97s' "Grand Theatre" in. It’s called The Treefort. We had four marathon days booked, because that’s all I could afford. John Dufilho, Joe Reyes, Jason Garner and Richard Martin were the guys who joined me. John and Jason had been friends of mine since The Moon Festival played San Antonio in the early '90s with a band they were in called 13.

I met Joe Reyes through John and Jason. Joe is another San Antonian. In 2008, I produced his band Buttercup and fell in love with the way he played guitar. His fluid melodicism reminded me of Neil Finn. He just had this effortless way of gliding around the fretboard. The Buttercup record I produced, "The Weather Here", is still one of my favourites. Richard was in a fantastic instrumental band called Shibboleth that were friends of mine.

We made a record of cover songs from the '70s that I dubbed Salim Vs. Shibboleth that still hasn't seen the light of day. Maybe someday? I'd eventually call our band The Treefort 5. It was obviously named after the studio I'd also fallen in love with and was spending so much time in. The Treefort 5 is such an incredible group of musicians, I feel like they’re the Texas version of The Heartbreakers.

Our four days in 2010 were probably the most fruitful that I’ve ever spent. We tracked as the guys were learning the songs for the first time. All of us were set up to play together and much of what you hear on the record was done within the first hour of learning each song. "Hit Parade" and "Channel 5" are even the rough tracking mixes that Jim Vollentine had up while we were monitoring our progress.

When we circled back to properly mix those songs, I felt like we never re-captured the glory of the monitor mixes. It took me a while to get "Hit Parade" finished because I was doing so much recording work back in Dallas. I was still engineering and producing all the time, almost seven days a week.

I launched my first crowd funding campaign on Pledge Music after Alex Dezen recommended it. I found the entire process very inspiring and I think it influenced me to make an album that my fans would really love. It was the first time that I made music wanting to give a gift back to the people encouraging me to continue making music.

I made another couple of trips back to Austin over the next six months to track "Goddamn Life," "Never Felt Better" and a lighter version of "Miette." By the time the record finally came out in 2012, I had moved into full-on Travoltas mode. The Travoltas outplayed The Treefort 5 twenty nine to six that year.

Tapete Records had booked my fourth  European tour for the Fall of 2012. I was supposed to go to Spain for three or four shows. It was a dream come true, as I'd always wanted to go there. I ended up cancelling the tour because my ex-wife insisted that the financial strain of our trip would put the final nail in our coffin. So I went along her desire to pull the plug on the tour. That effectively nuked my relationship with Tapete. I've also still never been to Spain! I haven't lived my life with many regrets, but that's one move I still regret to this day."









Friends for Life EP (2012)

"The "Friends For Life" EP is just a collection of songs that didn't quite fit on Hit Parade. "When You Were A Kid" still makes me tear up whenever I hear the wind chimes that used to hang outside my kid's old bedroom window. I have fond memories of Erik Sanden (Buttercup) and Joe Reyes going nuts over this band version of "Friends For Life." They even briefly covered it. "My Job Is Leaving" was inspired by Rhett Miller. I played it for him for the first time on the way to one of our favourite Dallas bars, The Barley House. After it was finished he sighed and said, "Well, that was sad"

The acoustic version of "Miette" was also considered "too sad" by her mother and brother. They voted it off the Hit Parade record and that's what got me to do the alternate version that made the record. "Misery is Coming" is a voice memo recording from my phone, while baby Miette cooed in the background while I was trying to work out the song. I'm still really glad I included it in this collection.

The artwork is also still one of my favourites. I asked a bunch of my "friends for life" to contribute school portrait photos of themselves. They're all pretty adorable. Bob Schneider, Billy Harvey, Rhett Miller and Gabrielle LaPlante are just some of the friends who contributed photos."


Skeleton Closet (2015)

"Rebuilding my life, post divorce, seriously slowed down the completion of this record. The first song, "Dead Man's Stare," was initially tracked back in 2010 when I brought The Treefort 5 in to make Hit Parade. "Two Years", which was about my late friend Carter Albrecht, had also been tracked during the Hit Parade sessions. I immediately set those two aside because I knew they were the path to a messier, stranger follow-up record.

Another contributing factor to "Skeleton Closet" sound was my budding musical relationship with guitarist, Nick Earl. Nick and I had been playing a lot together in The Travoltas and I was inspired by how inventive his playing was. Nick is a master at creating cinematic sonic soundscapes with a vast array of pedals and gadgets. I felt like The Travoltas weren't really the right vehicle to showcase his talents in the "other-worldly" department so I also enlisted his help with this record.

"The Bullies Are Back" is a good example of the different direction I wanted to undertake. I'd tracked a very "safe" version with The Treefort 5 that was perfectly fine, but not at all what I was looking for. I kept Dufilho's rolling, Slade-like drum track and muted everything else. Then I put a reggae Bass groove to it which totally stood it on its head. When I called Nick Earl in, he made the song ferocious and terrifying. If I played the two different versions of the song back to back, I'm sure you'd hear how astounding the difference is.

Another big influence on this record was the Optigan. It was an instrument originally manufactured by the toy company, Mattel, in the early 1970's. It played an optical disc that contained pre-recorded rhythm and keyboard tracks that you could use to build your own songs. The discs looked much like regular LP records. It was basically one of the first samplers, just like the Mellotron.

I'd been writing for years mainly on acoustic guitar and only occasionally on piano, because my skills on that instrument are rudimentary at best. On Skeleton Closet, I wanted to push myself out of the safety zone and build songs differently. The Optigan's rhythm tracks were perfect for that. I started "Permanent Holiday" and "Andalucia In The Spring" with Optigan rhythm tracks I found that inspired Bass grooves. I didn't write the vocal melody or lyrics until I'd already written the music bed.

"Crocodiles" was done the same way after I simply wrote down the title, because it sounded like something that should be on a record called Skeleton Closet. "To The Desert" was born out of another Optigan loop that I put a weird reggae Bassline to. I decided to use the words of El Pasoan poet, Benjamin Saenz, instead of a traditional melody. It felt more like that's what the music was asking for.

"Two Lizards" is perhaps the best example of Nick Earl's skewed genius. The fragmented, aggressive buzzing sounds the dominate the recording are all remarkably coming from his guitar, not a synthesizer. I can't even begin to imagine what this song would've sounded like in the hands of any other guitarist.

It took me so long to complete Skeleton Closet that I actually had two separate crowd funding drives, one at the start to pay for recording costs and then another as I got closer to the record's release. I no longer had record label support behind me as I'd ruined my relationship with Tapete when I bailed on playing in Spain. I miraculously raised $28,000 between the two pledge drives and was able to cover all the costs of releasing and promoting Skeleton Closet. I was even able to pay all my friends who played on it!

The artwork had also taken forever to complete because I'd lost my long-time collaborator, Jayme. She had played a huge role in the photography and design of most of my album covers spanning 2003 to 2012. I finally asked Bob Schneider if he'd help after several misfires from other designers. I sent him a blown out photo that I'd taken of myself laying in the grass one afternoon. I was pretty sure I was having a nervous breakdown when I snapped it, so it somehow felt like a fitting image for this album.

Skeleton Closet also spawned the Boombox Experiment. I attempted two full band performances of material from the album in May 2014 and wasn't happy with how it translated. After that I decided to make special mixes of songs then dub them to cassette. I found a 1979 Panasonic boombox to be my trusty touring companion for the next two years and worked up a one man show with my 1964 Guild Mark I acoustic guitar and bullet mic.

An entirely new performing persona emerged for me during this time. Kind of a fusion between Travoltas' punk Sinatra guy and solo singer-songwriter guy. The boombox shows spanned all of 2015 through 2016. I even spent a couple weeks opening for the Old 97's on a West Coast/Pacific Northwest run. It was a trip walking out on expansive stages to play to big crowds with just an acoustic guitar and a rickety boombox."









Terlingua (2015)

"The boombox experiment inspired me to do an alternate version of the song "Terlingua." The band version just didn't seem right for my boombox shows. For this version, I introduced a Clash-like reggae vibe and slowed it down a hair, so I could get all the rapid fire words out. I actually prefer this version to the version on the album. I think it fits the vibe of the record more - it's weirder. If I ever re-issue Skeleton Closet I'm going to swap them out!

There are some other interesting misfits on the EP. "Guns of Glory" was totally based on The Clash's version of "I Fought the Law." I wrote that one with Joe Reyes. I also had another song that was a bit of an experiment called "Soldiers." It didn't quite fit on the album, so this was a good place to stick it. It's a five and a half minute dirge that deals with a war story.

When I was looking for bonus tracks, I also discovered the acoustic demo version of "Two Years." I thought there was something emotionally compelling about hearing the song stripped down to just my voice over an acoustic guitar."


A Break in the Battle (2017 with Chris Holt and Paul Averitt)

"This was a fun one to make. A local record label, Hand Drawn Records, asked me to appear on a covers compilation they were putting out in 2015. I thought it would be fun to do something with my friends, Chris and Paul, since we hadn't played together in a while. Paul used to be in The Happiness Factor with me and Chris played quite a lot of electric guitar on my 2nd and 3rd solo albums.

I picked a song called "Disenchanted" by The Church for the compilation. We had to track it live though and after we did that I felt we could do a better version at my studio. So a few weeks later, we got together and re-tracked the song. It was nice to have something to work on with the guys and we had so many laughs doing "Disenchanted" that I thought, "why not keep going?"


We generally worked on two songs at a time. Chris is a master at figuring out songs, so he'd do that then we'd meet up and hash out the arrangement and right key for me to sing them in. "Horsin' Around" by Prefab Sprout was particularly challenging, because I'd always had it in my head to take it away from the '80s and give it a torch song spin. We cut the vocal and main guitar live without a click. I'm still very proud of how that one came out, the guitar work from Chris is pretty exquisite.

Another one we stood on its head was The Replacements' "Kiss Me On the Bus." Chris came up with a killer, intricate fingerpicking guitar part that sent it off in its own direction. I know The Replacements Bass player, Tommy Stinson, he played on an Old 97s record I produced. The last time I saw him I was opening a horrible show for him and he was ten sheets to the wind.

I made the mistake of telling him about covering 'bus' and he just said, "Yuck." Despite Tommy's lack of enthusiasm, I'd still recommend this record over any other that I've made or, at the very least, I'd say it's the best starting point for music listeners who've never heard my records before."


Somewhere South Of Sane (2018)

"I never officially started working on this record, it all just sort of happened. If Hit Parade was written in the cracks of my life, Somewhere South of Sane oozed out in the post-divorce expanses, over the course of several years. My process was similar for many of the songs. I simply waited for them to come in and as soon as they did I'd record them. For various reasons I hadn't made one of my own solo records in my own studio since 2006. It felt really good to be working there again, it felt like I'd reclaimed the place.

Most of the songs on SSOS were written on my 1972 Guild Mark III. They call these kind of acoustic guitars “Spanish” guitars, because they have nylon strings and a wider than usual neck that Flamenco players gravitate to. The songs were written with absolutely no consideration toward whether they would ever be performed live. They’d usually come in late at night or early in the morning while I was alone in the apartment that I was living in.

As soon as a song would be in a place where I thought I could put it down, I'd go to the studio and document it. I had one Neumann condenser set up in the control room and I'd usually cut an acoustic guitar track followed by a vocal. I'd usually burn a CD then drive around and listen over the course of a few days. I’d make adjustments to the lyrics, change a word or two or a line here or there, but they were often just minor tweaks.

When I felt a song was basically finished on my end, I'd have Nick Earl come in. The sonics of the record were absolutely inspired by Nick. I knew that with his wizardry, he would create expansive, imaginative worlds for each song to live it. Just listen to "Rainbow Dolphins" or "Boy In A Record Shop" for proof. Another thing to consider is there are no synths or keyboards on this record. All of what you hear was done with Nick's electric guitar.

I ended up just pecking away like this for about three years. It was a thoroughly enjoyable process and I had a load of songs that I was pretty happy with. That's why I decided to release my first double album. There's twenty one songs on the record, but I also had seven or eight bonus tracks. So we released all the bonus material digitally as the North, South, East and West EPs. "


Jesus Of Sad EP (2019)

Billy Harvey and I started recording again together in July of 2018. I had a bunch of new songs as well as songs that I'd been sitting on for a few years, the "beat" songs that didn't fit on Somewhere South Of Sane. It all added up to 25 songs that we tracked together. I was driving myself crazy trying to whittle them down to a single album so I decided to release five separate EPs.

I have a songwriter friend here in Texas, Nicholas Altobelli, that I was joking with one day. I called him the "Jesus Of Sad" then thought, "Wait, that could make a nifty song title!" So I scribbled it down. It's also a bit of a nod to Nick Lowe's Jesus of Cool. That was the UK only title of his first solo record. The American label reps thought it was too risqué to call it that here.

The Jesus Of Sad EP came out in January of this year to coincide with some tour dates I did with Rhett Miller. We have another EP slated to come out in May called, Let's Be Miserable Together. Of course the tour dates that we had lined up for that have now fallen by the wayside due to the Coronavirus shutdown."








Born With a Broken Heart

"I had been struggling with depression around the time that my mother was fighting Alzheimers. A phrase came in out of the blue one day - I was born with a broken heart. It made me kind of chuckle to myself in the same way  The World is Full Of People Who Want to Hurt You did when that came in 15 years ago.

It was dark, but amusing in its darkness. So that idea started the ball rolling and an avalanche of words followed. It took me back to my childhood and reflections on some of the things that were ultimately heartbreaking, like the way I felt my mother was treated. It's really a tribute to her and an acknowledgment of how wonderful, creative women like her have been disrespected by men. The next thing that came in was the first line of the song: Let me take you to the desert/to my humble start......."


How's things hanging with your brother?

Faris lives in Las Vegas now. He hasn't put out and album or done any recording on his own in almost ten years. In December of 2016, we got together and recorded a one-off song to try and raise money for families that had been decimated by the violence in Syria. Our father was from Jableh Syria, and we still have a lot of family over there.

For the charity I wrote a song called "Christmas In Aleppo." My kids actually played on the recording too, it was a very special time. My son, Gavin, played the drums. He was only 13 at the time. My daughter, Miette, also sang on it.


I talk on the phone with my brother at least once a week. He said that he'd finally written a couple songs a few weeks ago. I've been encouraging him to record them, but he's reluctant. He still plays guitar and piano, he's got a bunch of nice instruments in his house. Here's a Spotify playlist I made of his music. I think it's pretty damn impressive."


How does the songwriting process work with you and has it changed down the years?

"It hasn't changed much outside of the projects that I get involved with that require me to write with other songwriters. When I'm on my own, it's all basically down to waiting for the moment inspiration strikes and a song comes in. Sometimes I will go months without picking up the guitar to write, but it never bothers me. I never force it.

I lost both of my parents over the last couple of years. My mother, Karen, passed away in May of 2018 and my father, Fayez, died this past August. With both of them it was a slow, excruciating process. A handful of some of the best songs I've written came in around the time of my mother's death.

One good example of the way that spontaneity plays a huge role in my process is a song called "Damage." It's slated to be released on my next full-length album, A Nuclear Winter Feels Warm. I was at lunch with my father, celebrating my birthday in 2018, when a friend of mine sent me a text suggesting we write a song together. He told me all I had to do was send him a title. I texted back, "Damage is Fun!" By the time my father and I were leaving the restaurant, he'd sent me back a voice memo of his idea for "Damage Is Fun."

I listened on the way back to Dad's office. It immediately triggered something else though, my own take on "Damage." I was supposed to go visit my mother after lunch. I only had 90 minutes before I was supposed to pick my daughter up from school, but this song was wanting to come in. I decided to race home and try and knock it out. So that's what I did. I basically finished it before carpool and then felt incredibly guilty that I'd decided to do that on my birthday instead of visit my mother. I went to see her the next day though."


Looking back on your body of work what are the things that really stand out for you?

     What mainly stands out is that I'm one seriously determined or insane motherfucker. All of the time and effort I put into these songs and recordings is kind of ridiculous, especially considering they've never generated any sort of income. They were incredibly impractical in that sense. It's been my life's obsession though.

After I fell in love with music as a kid, there was never anything else I wanted to do. I've been singularly driven by songwriting ever since and I'm grateful every single day that I've somehow managed to pull this off as a "job." I still get to wake up and do what I love to do even though I've never had a hit or sold a load of records. It's pretty miraculous."








You can buy from Salim's website here.  You can listen and buy albums at his bandcamp site here. You can listen to or buy Somewhere South Of Sane here. You can listen to or buy The Travoltas here. You can listen to or buy The Disappearing Act here. Y


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Thursday, 21 May 2020

Mick Dillingham Interviews - Salim Nourallah (Part 1 : The Mick Dillingham Archive)




The first of two excellent interviews conducted ten years apart. Part 1 is from way back now in 2010 and in Part 2, tomorrow, you can read a brand new continuation of that interview done this month. DV

Texas based singer, songwriter, musician and producer Salim Nourallah has long been a favourite with lovers of top class gravitas pop both Stateside and on the continent. He has remained relatively unknown in this country except by those willing to search below the radar for their listening sustenance.  Over the last few years he has released a quartet of beautiful albums awash with perfect melodies, glorious pop harmonies and intelligent emotive songs wrapped in breathless and passionate musical invention. 

An output that effortlessly puts him firmly alongside the likes of Jason Falkner, Michael Penn, Philip B Price and other purveyors of such high end creativity. Recent years have also seen the growth of Pleasantry Lane recording studios from its humble garage beginnings to become a studio of choice in Dallas. It is owned and is operated by Salim and his long term friend Rip Rowan. With the release of his last album, Constellation, garnering such critical acclaim and Rhett Miller and The Old 97’s calling on his award winning production skills it was high time we sat down with the man and find out how he got here.


What’s your first music memory?


“My earliest vivid memory is of seeing Johnny Cash dressed all in black standing in the boxcar of a train singing and playing guitar. It left quite an impression on me, I must’ve been only four or five at the time. Later as my interest in music grew there were many nights spent holding an AM radio to my ear under the sheets of my bed. I remember calling a radio station over and over again to request Elton John’s “Rocket Man.” I also remember asking our Mom to put the White Album on over and over again because my younger brother Faris and I were too young to work the turntable, then singing along loudly to “Rocky Raccoon” and “Bungalow Bill.”



When did you decide you could make music?

 “I don’t know when or if I ever actually decided I could do it myself. I just started hearing these melodies in my head and I wanted to find a way to get them out. Having The Beatles as heroes was actually quite daunting because they were so good. It was depressing to hear how bad I was in comparison, The first song I ever finished was called “She’s Mine,” it was my teenage attempt at being Paddy McAloon from Prefab Sprout. Other early songs I remember were “I Hate Rock’n’Roll” which included the mission statement: "We're rippin' through twenty years of noise, drugs and sex". “Everything About Her” which was an early Beatles skiffle influenced tune and “Only When I Dream,” a 50s style Everly Brothers type ballad.

Our first band was called the Crying Dymes. My brother Faris’s girlfriend, Gretchen Clapp, had a sister named Heidi who was dating a musician. His name was Bobby Schneider and he was one cool dude. He had devilish charm and a quick wit, kind of mysterious and world weary, never really revealed too much. We instantly hit it off because he was a rebel and we were aspiring rebels The sisters got us all together and Bobby started coming over and jamming in the front bedroom of our red brick house on Constellation. He played keyboards, Faris played drums and I did my best to try to play guitar and sing. I bought a cherry red Rickenbacker like Paul Weller had on the back of the first Jam record.

We spent a few months working on songs without a bass player. We eventually made a 4-track cassette demo with my schoolmate Jack Thompson filling in on bass. Jack was a giant with huge hands who told me that he figured he was one of the world’s top five bassists. Pretty funny…The downfall of the Dymes was we couldn’t find a bass player and there was nowhere to even play original music in El Paso had we landed one. So we decided to all move to Austin and keep playing together. But when Bobby returned from a trip to Germany that summer of ‘87 I'd up and changed the plan on him.

I decided to move myself and Faris to Denton, not Austin and this moronic decision plagued me for years after. Bobby moved on to eventually find success as Bob Schneider, King of Austin, while we spent the next five years languishing in obscurity in Denton (a place we both hated.)”








Tell us about your first band with your brother.

 “When we first got to Denton, my brother was hell bent on finding band members. He started going out almost every night. Fry Street, The Flying Tomato, Doctor Smith's (an old Pizza Hut that had been converted in to a bizarre nightclub). He came home late one really excited. "I think I've found our first band member! He's a bass player, his name is Brian Lux and he looks exactly like Paul Simonon from the Clash!!" Sure enough Brian really did. I couldn't believe it. He had copped every single one of his moves too, it was freakish. He'd obviously spent half his lifetime in front of a full-length mirror perfecting every nuance of Simonon's slithery groove

So there he was in our living room, above the leasing office, bobbing and weaving, jerking and jumping, bass guitar slung almost down to his ankles. The band was called Heathen Town. We never played a single show, just made a horrible demo tape at Inside Track, Denton and then promptly disbanded when Lux stole all our gear in the middle of the night and skipped town to be a Cadet at Texas A & M.

The Moon Festival was born shortly thereafter with me moving to Bass, Faris on guitar and Heathen Town drummer Rich Holden. Rich played only at our first show and then was sacked for Chris Adams. We recruited a young guitarist from El Paso named James Swenson who moved up to Denton just to be in the band. After only eight shows with us, poor James was sacked for the good looking, lean, long-haired Tommy Roberts, who I had poached from a Spinal Tap-esque band I saw at Doctor Smith’s called Mexican Chicken. Adams was then sacked a few months down the road when a local indie label, Dragon St. Records, approached us and said "If you get Shallow Reign’s Brad Robertson in your band we’ll sign you." Brad’s first show was Cadillac Jack’s in Addison in March of ’91.

So the definitive MF line-up was born, very much under the influence of The Church, who I was heavily into at the time. The name was even lifted from a Steve Kilbey song I dug called “My Birthday, The Moon Festival.” The curse of the Moon Festival ran from January 1990 to January 1999. along time. All in all, it was a bit like Spinal Tap without the hits. We did crack the CMJ Top 75 with our debut Shrine, but that was about it. A total of six different drummers sat behind the kit for us in those nine years!

By the time of Sugar Pill, our best and last record, we had undergone a complete musical transformation into a Kinksy retro-pop trio. We played our last show at the Satellite Lounge in Ft. Worth for $45 and then Faris quit in January of ‘99. I played the three remaining commitments by myself with an acoustic guitar. I was ill equipped to do that kind of thing back then. It was a baptism by fire. It was terrifying to have gone all those years with a band protecting you and then go out on stage by yourself. It’s funny to look back on it now, because I love playing solo acoustic shows now. I actually thrive on it.”


The Nourallah Brothers (2000)

 “Faris rightfully recognised that recording on our own was where it was at and not continuing the beleaguered battle-axe of a band that we’d been in for all those years with nary an ounce of success! The two of us set about recording on 8 track in a converted garage that I christened Pleasantry Lane with a nod and a wink to the studio the Fab Four made famous. We were working kinda like The Beatles did on the White Album, by the end, mostly separately. Faris would work on his songs when he knew I wouldn't be around, then I'd show up and do mine.

There was no teamwork and no camaraderie, just a lot of tension. It was pretty obvious it was over between us. It had stopped being fun, it was a drag. The Nourallah Brothers album came out a couple of years after and by that time Faris had moved to Portland. Most of the tracks we recorded at those sessions are on the 28 song double disc re-issue of Nourallah Brothers from a few years back.”


The Happiness Factor (2001)

  “After my brother and I went our separate ways, I quit playing music for a bit. My friend Paul Averitt encouraged me to start playing some acoustic shows. He’s the best harmony singer I’ve ever been around and we got into doing these power pop numbers with harmonies running throughout. His enthusiasm was pivotal in getting my confidence back to be in a band again. We played a few duo shows under the Glory Brothers moniker. We did some of my songs plus covers like “Misery” by The Beatles and “Sunny Afternoon” by The Kinks. Around the same time I became friends with a guy named John Jay Myers, who also happened to be a crazy Keith Moon styled high-energy drummer. We formed the band The Happiness Factor around this trio. It was a solid unit and felt like a "real" band based on friendships. I’d always wanted to be in a band like that.

 When my brother moved back from Portland in the Spring of 2000, we were briefly on better terms and I asked him to join. He played our first show gripped by stage fright and never showed up for our second show. Although I was mad about it at the time, it was the right thing to have happened. The band’s chemistry revolved around me,  John and Paul. Faris was the odd man out and he knew it. He does appear on some of the debut though. Steve Duncan joined on right after Faris bowed out and we finished Self-Improvement?

The Happiness Factor was a great rock’n’roll band I very fondly remember. When the band had run its course, I knew I was done playing that kind of music. I couldn’t possibly form a better band so what would be the point trying? Going solo and playing "softer" music made perfect sense to me”








What’s it like existing as an indie musician in Dallas, how tough is it?

“ I’ve joked before that any musician who makes it past the five year mark playing music in Dallas deserves some sort of medal of honour. I’m very happy here, but for the most part this is a sports and commerce town, so getting support for playing music can be quite difficult. That being said, things have never been better in Dallas, especially with the recent addition of a superb public radio station called KXT. We also have some great old historic venues like the Granada Theater and Sons of Hermann Hall.

I’ve never had a label fund any of my own records, so if I hadn’t started my own recording studio they could have never been made. So almost everything I’ve done has been born out of necessity, to survive as an indie musician with no money coming in from outside sources. It’s been very gratifying but also, as the years roll on, increasingly difficult to balance raising a family and continuing to play music. I’ve seen so many talented musicians over the past 20 years eventually give up or just self destruct out of frustration. It can be very disheartening”


Your debut album Polaroid is the one that first put you on the map for many people, though what had come before was nothing to be sniffed at.

  “My solo debut, Polaroid, was mainly done on a 16 track recorder when Pleasantry Lane was still just a single room. With no isolation, tracking drums is always the challenge, so due to these restrictions I cut “1978” and “Nothing Ever Goes Right” at a friend’s studio. I spent a lot of time working on the album in the wee hours of the morning. My ex-wife, Jayme, was pregnant with our son Gavin so she would go to bed and I’d go out to the studio saying “I’ll be back in around midnight”. Most nights midnight ended up being more like 6am.

I’d come in and sleep a couple of hours, then get up and go to work at a record shop. “We Did Some Things” was one of those all-night benders. I wrote and recorded it right at the console singing the lead vocal into a SM57, while listening to the playback through the speakers. ”Missing Funerals” is a favourite of mine.  I manipulated a compressor feeding back on itself to make this insect-like drone. The words are for my grandfather, whose funeral I couldn’t make. “1978” is of course the big hit I never had,quite possibly my most popular song among fans.”


Beautiful Noise (2006)

 “The next album, Beautiful Noise, came along right after our son was born. He was diagnosed with craniosynostosis, a congenital birth defect that causes sutures on a baby's head to close earlier than normal.  At three months old, he had to have major surgery on his head. It was absolutely terrifying. I wrote the bulk of the record during those trying times. It’s still a very special record to me. I know I’ll never make another one like it. For some it may be lyrically too dark or heavy. To me it’s all about being in love with life so much that you can’t bear the thought of letting go of it or your loved ones.

“Montreal” was inspired by a Polaroid of my wife taken in Canada while on tour with Rhett Miller. “The World Is Full of People (Who Want To Hurt You)” was written on an old ‘50s couch while baby Gavin happily cooed before me. “Never Say Never” celebrates my son’s successful surgery and offers up some sage-like parental advice, like love is for heroes and hate is for fools. “Life In A Split Second” was drawn from words my grandfather, Robert E. Severs, once said that have haunted me since childhood: “No matter how old you live to be, someday you’ll look back and it will seem like your entire life was over in a split second.”


Snowing In My Heart (2007)

 “Around the time of my third record, Snowing In My Heart, I was really getting into utilising the talents of all of these incredible musicians I know here in Dallaa. They are world class musicians, as good as any in London, New York, Austin or whatever Music Mecca you’d like. I’d sort of dabbled with this idea on the last Happiness Factor record by arranging the coolest group of musicians I could think of to fit each individual song. On Snowing, I sort of went bonkers with the concept. There are no less than six different guitar players on “Days Disappear.” Even though the theme loosely running through the record is the struggle to overcome the things that continually drag us down, I thought I’d actually ended up making my most “commercial” record to date. Beautiful Noise sold better than any record I’d ever made and I won Best Producer, Best Song and Best Record in the Dallas Observer awards of 2006. So rolling into 2007, I felt like I finally had some actual momentum on my side.

 A few years ago I was discovered by a great indie label based out of Hamburg Germany called Tapete Records. It is run by two musicians, Dirk Darmstaedter and Gunther Buskies. They’ve been incredibly supportive and a big reason why I criss-crossed Europe three times. The first tour was to promote Beautiful Noise in September of 2006 and the most recent was last May.

All three have been solo acoustic tours that I’ve brought my family along on. My son was only three years old on the first one. They’ve been some of the best times of my entire life and I’ve become addicted to the feeling of travelling over there with Jayme and Gavin. Last year’s highlight was spending three days in the South of France with Wreckless Eric and Amy Rigby. They live there now and Eric (whom I’ve been a fan of for many years) was kind enough to take us under his wing and get me a couple of wonderful shows there.

That being said, Western Vinyl, who had released my first two solo records and The Nourallah Brothers record, over here basically dropped me.  “Don’t Be Afraid” ended up on HBO’s The Wire though and “So Down” on the popular TV show Smallville. The Wire was nice. It partly funded my last record, Constellation. The record still managed to push it all along for me even without an American Record label helping. We had a wonderful CD release show at the Granada Theater, an historic Dallas venue and were getting ready to embark on our second European tour. Then my close friend, Carter Albrecht, who had played on just about everything I’d ever done, was killed four days before we were to leave for Hamburg. It was as if the heart of our music scene here was ripped right out.”








Constellation your latest is yet another dazzling creation.

 “Thank you. Constellation might be my favourite record to date. It’s the first record I’ve made away from home and it’s kind of a reaction to Snowing In My Heart.  Snowing felt like the end of a chapter for me and I very much wanted to redesign the blueprint with this album. So I went to Austin and recorded it at my friend Billy Harvey’s studio. The plan was for Billy and I to play and sing everything ourselves, kind of like a Nourallah Brothers record, but with Billy playing the role of my brother. He is one of the most genuine, talented and brilliant people I’ve ever known. He should be incredibly rich and famous for what he does. If only I had control of the pop music universe.

We made Constellation over three separate eight day stints in the spring and summer of 2008. I have so much admiration for Billy as a songwriter and producer that I didn’t want to show up with songs I felt iffy about. Just knowing I would have to play these songs for him inspired me to write some of the best material of my career. Many of the songs reach back into my childhood in El Paso. “Stranger in My Own Skin” documents the isolation I felt living there that was only made tolerable by losing myself in music. “Western Hills” (named after the grade school I attended) is a song for anyone who has ever felt like they never quite fit in.

“Saint Georges” reunited me with Bob Schneider from the Crying Dymes days. Bob is the person who actually first introduced me to Billy and I thought it would be fitting to finally get him to play on one of my records. Playing “Saint Georges” with Billy and Bob on the afternoon it was recorded was a very profound experience for me. “Endless Dream Days” is a love song to my brother Faris and The Nourallah Brothers epic that never was. If there’s any single disc that I’ve ever done that I feel like I could hand over to the staunchest critic and be okay with their reaction it’s Constellation.”


You mentioned Rhett Miller just then. You’ve been working with him consistently both playing with and now producing.

“ I got a call from Rhett Miller in 2002 asking me if I’d tour with him in support of The Instigator, which he’d just finished in L.A. with Jon Brion. I’ve been involved in just about everything he’s done ever since, playing Bass on the George Drakoulias produced "The Believer" and producing The Old 97s’ "Blame It On Gravity" and Rhett’s last self-titled album. The Old 97s are a legendary Texas band now. I still pinch myself every now and then over the fact that I get to make records with them. On "Blame It On Gravity", they used Jayme’s fantastic painting for the cover. She’s always photographed, painted or designed my CDs. It was really cool to get to collaborate with her on someone else’s record.

Rhett is truly one of the kindest, most considerate, positive people I’ve ever been around. It was all easy. I’ve never once seen him lose his cool or be a drag to be around, even when things got tough. He’s an awesome person, the hardest worker I know and a great friend. I haven’t gotten to spend as much time with Jon Brion as I would’ve liked, but every time he’s been part of the action he’s come through with pure genius. Patrick Warren played keys on "The Believer", we spent a day in Sunset Sound, Hollywood, with him. It was like going to keyboard school,  completely awesome!”


Things seem to be going well down at Pleasantry Lane

 “Although the studio was kind of launched in ’98, when my brother and I started The Nourallah Brother sessions, I hadn’t actually considered recording others for hire until 2003 when we were expecting the arrival of our first child, Gavin. That’s when I got the hair-brained idea to put a bit of money into the building, tack on a small control room and see if I could make a bit of money doing this instead of breaking down and getting a “real” job. It’s been more successful than I had ever imagined at the time. I’ve never advertised, I don’t have a manager out there seeking jobs, it’s all word of mouth and pretty casual.

One major reason my studio has been so successful is, whether the outside world knows it or not, Dallas has a thriving music scene. We’re in the top ten cities in America as far as size, so one would figure we’d have some talent here. There is a lot of talent but unfortunately, not many opportunities for these young musicians to reach people in other places. We’re pretty geographically isolated here.

Some of my current favourites are Gabrielle LaPlante (whom I’m convinced would make the cover of the NME if they only knew who she was) and Buttercup (a San Antonio band I adore). Chris Holt (Nick Drake meets Dark Side of the Moon) is great, The Cut-off are like Wilco meeting The Pixies in a dark alley fist fight) The Flat People are, I assure you, the very best band you’ve never heard of, The Shins meet Neil Young, great words and melodies.  I’ve stayed as busy as I want to be for the past five years. So busy, in fact, it’s threatened to over-run my ability to spend time working on my own music. That’s why I signed on with Pledge Music London this year to try and raise some money so I can take a break and make another record.”








It was Alex Dezen of the Damnwells who first told you about Pledge Music.

 “Another friendship born out of the Instigator tour of 2002. Jayme and I hit it off with Alex D. and the rest of The Damnwells when we got to spend a couple of weeks with them back then. Another set of friends for life, wonderful band, wonderful people. Alex told me about Pledge Music, because his band had a very successful run raising funds for their new record. I’m going to play a show in a few weeks with him, I can’t wait. I’d love to make a record with Alex at some point. Producing my old friend Bob Schneider might be interesting as well. I’d actually really love for Ethan Johns to produce one of my records someday. Tchad Blake would be nice too! Those guys cost a lot of money though,.so EMI can sign me up now….”


You helped produced John Lefler’s excellent Better By Design I noticed.

 “Lefler and I became fast friends when Rhett opened a few dates for Dashboard Confessional in the fall of 2002. We hit it off with a shared obsession with classic power pop bands like Squeeze and Jellyfish. He decided to move to Dallas from Los Angeles at the beginning of 2006. That’s when we started working on Better by Design. John joins me for the occasional show here in Dallas.

Our first one together was pretty dubious, in L.A. at Room 5 in April 2005. I wish we could play more together in Texas, but he’s away from home a lot, always touring with Dashboard Confessional. Better was many years in the making and took a lot of courage from Lefler to do. I’m really proud of the work we did and feel honoured that he entrusted me to be part of it.”


What's in store ahead?

 “Well, the plan for this year is to produce another Old 97s record in April and then take a month or so off to try and make my next record. I’m not sure how I’m going to do it yet, whether or not to use my backing band(s) or just rely on myself. It might end up being a combination of the two. Pledge Music helped me raise enough to take a bit of time off, but not enough to do anything extravagant, like hire Billy Harvey again (which I’d love to do) or go record somewhere else (which would be fun). I’ve been really inspired by the outpouring of love and support my friends and fans have given me through Pledge. It’s actually gotten me writing with the fervour of a man half my age.

I’ve got a bunch of new songs I’m pretty excited about recording, “Tokens of Your Cruelty,” “Unstoppable,” and “38 Rue de Sévigné”  to name a few. I also want to keep pushing on the SN “formula” a bit. I don’t want to make something exactly like I’ve done in the past, I want to shake it up. I also have two records slated to come out with songs I’ve written over the past year or two, Gabrielle LaPlante’s debut and The Disappearing Act, which is a recording project I’m in with a childhood friend of mine from El Paso. There are also some archive releases in the pipeline such as the Salim vs. Shibboleth ‘70s cover record that I hope sees the light of day soon.

I’d also like to finally release "Delusions Of Grandeur", my two disc out-takes retrospective which effectively cleans out the Nourallah recording vaults from over the past ten years. I’ve also got an autobiography on the back burner culled from my blog "It’s Snowing In My Heart". This project almost prompted my wife to hit me over the head with a frying pan one afternoon. “A book? You’re kidding me and with whose time?” Okay, point taken…maybe I’ll get to the book in 2015”









You can find out more about Salim at his website hereYou can listen to and buy Salim albums here.


Thursday, 31 January 2019

I Don't Hear A Single Albums Of The Year 2018 : 21-30



2018 has been a fantastic year for the type of music that we like. It's been difficult to get these choices down to 100. I'm also not a believer in saying one album is better than another. Most of the time you are comparing Apples To Oranges. I'm not a Top 10 person, I just think what's the point.

However, for the first time last year, I did a Top 50, normally I just say what my favourite album of the year is. I've simply done it again, because those five posts of last year were so popular and the aim of this Blog is to get exposure (and Sales) for the artists.

As I said the standard this year is incredibly high, so much so that I've extended the choice to 100 albums. There is no meaning or judgement on an album that is Number 1, Number 100 or not on the list. Anything that I review on here, mention on Social Media or play on the Radio Show is as highly recommended.

For each album, I've posted a song from it and a link to the IDHAS Review if applicable.


No 21 : Jeff Whalen - Ten More Rock Super Hits 






No 22 : The Speedways - Just Another Regular Summer     IDHAS Review here.







No 23 : Checkpoint Charley - Pomp, Twaddle And Bombast : Songs 13 - 24   IDHAS Review here.





No 24 : Summer Magic - Sharks And Other Dangers    IDHAS Review here.







No 25 : Yorick Van Norden - The Jester







No 26 : Salim Nourallah - Somewhere South Of Sane






No 27 : Bill Lloyd - Working The Long Game 






No 28 : Rob Bonfiglio - Trouble Again    IDHAS Review here.







No 29 : Groovy Uncle - Meanwhile Back In Medieval 






No 30 : 8X8 - New Data New Day 







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